My main complaint with the current build and previous ones, are how random and annoying Thorns AI is. Sometimes she just rushes you down, others she'll stop when stared at. On top of that, she is INSANELY fast. I get that this is a horror game and she's supposed to chase you, but she's inescapable, and if she doesn't stop when stared at, it's a guaranteed game over. At the very least, make her slightly slower than the sprint and add in a stamina bar.
She has a messing mechanic. If she needs a change, she will charge you aggressively. Just press 'E' when next to her. It's still risky, but it puts her back into the weeping angel type behavior where she stops when you are looking at her.
Yeah, she is getting nerfed across the board. I am slowing her down, making her hit less hard and making her completely ease off once you stare her down for a few seconds rather then forcing the player to ease off themselves while looking at her. I am keeping her difficult but she is considered over kill right now.
I personally don't find her too too hard. I agree she could use a bit of a nerf, but the only thing that really bothered me with her so far is that sometimes she will have another accident right after you change her.
I had her in her aggressive mode chasing me, so I let her get close enough to change her. Then I was only able to back a few paces away before she had an accident again and resumed chasing me. So, perhaps a delay should be added that prevents her from messing right after she is changed? Either way, it's still an interesting experience.
Yeah I plan on keeping her difficult but she does have some rough corners that need to be shaved. The accident system currently allows cultists to mess and wet a 2nd time zthe tldr means there are 2 counters at around 3 to 4 minutes that are always counting down and can over lap like you experienced.
The aggro when she needs a change is a recent addition when I found her too easy and predictable and that issue is an easy enough fix for the next patch.
A bit of an update, I managed to find the keys, but there seems to be an issue. The master key is single use, but there are multiple doors that use it.
Yup, That issue is known and is not intentional. the doors that use that key need a flag to not consume the key on use. as is with some items being mislabeled on the text prompt when you pick them up. quite a few have the diaper pack prompt and I haven't prioritize it yet as I want to make sure the final area plays well and isn't needlessly cruel since Thorn is already really pushing it.
The other known issue is there are a few objects that need flags corrected for the save system to work as built. That will likely be ironed out a bit after Halloween since it has always been extremely fickle.
Is there supposed to be any kind of "prize" at the end? I managed to get down to the restroom but found not much else (other than a certain familiar tall girl)
My one complaint is that I feel like the save system needs to work(it keeps giving me a black screen when trying to load) , or else the game is extremely difficult.
the save system doesn't currently function, there's still some issues preventing that. As for the difficulty, I imagine being able to load from a saved position will help.
Just a heads up. One of the doors that opens with the common key has two doors in the frame. One will unlock, the other doesn't unlock. I somehow manages to get two common key and one of the doors will not open with it.
It's the room closest to nursery room with the flashlight. I do understand it is still an alpha, but I figured I would let you know regardless. Great work as of yet.
To be clear, I was referring to the 2.2 RC1 version.
Got a pretty crappy PC, can't even get the game to load- any tips on how to fix that? The loading bar gets about 1/6th of the way through and then it freezes, so IDK if it's really a graphics thing...
You did a grate progression from the 2.0.3 to 2.1, developing a game is quite demanding for the time you spend on it, so, congratulation for your progress but, I have my questions.
For the accident system, you will add sounds when one of the cultists wet herself?. And, you will add sounds when you/they change their/your diaper? like diaper crinkle and diaper tapes sounds.
Idk if is already added in previous versions but, our main character will have integrated the accident system and we must change ourself or ask a cultist or passive npc to help us?
I Downloaded the 2.1. Am I missing something? I get spawned on the elevator floor with passive enemies. Am I supposed to do something to access more of the game? I've already looked through the doors.
The 2.1 is currently 6 stages with passive NPCs. The focus was on updating every single character model, expanding the accident system and lipsyncing then optimizing the game so it takes less space and runs better (minus ginny's area which is currently getting improved)
Hostile enemies and larger areas are coming back in 2.2.
I'm loving the games progress so far. Though in this update when inside Ginny's Complex, it's destroying my framerate for some reason. (18-34fps) Everywhere else it's golden. (100fps+) On previous versions Alpha 2.0.2 and Alpha 2.0.3. I never encountered this problem.
I disabled shadows in that area and it helped and went up to 36-54fps. Though it was still very erratic between those two numbers, so not smooth.
Now I have two kinda beefy rigs and get almost max settings on both. In game it ranges from 108-120fps and 128-144fps in 4K depending on which PC. It's just Ginny's Complex where it drops below 34fps.
I'd also like to ask if there be character/s more focused on watersports vs scat? Like if some prefer one over the other? Just curious.
Sorry for long comment. I just thought I'd point it out for future builds.
That's one of the known issues with the build actually.
The lighting was updated on Ginnys mansion however two of the prefabs received bad settings causing performance issues. I recently corrected That and rebaked the whole scene. it will be less demanding next release.
trying to download Alpha 2.0.3 and it’s not working. I don’t know why I’m downloading it. I have zip seven and I open it in there and I tried to press the game and it says system error code extraction can proceed because unity player dill was not found and I don’t know what
Really good update here! It fixed a crashing upon startup issue i had with the previous couple versions and I really like the new cultist Charlene. amazing work as always.
I have been working on it whenever I can. I appreciate everyone's patience on it and I plan to compile one of the tests we do during our work streams soon.
Is there a way to limit the FPS in the game? Running it makes my computer run hot no matter what graphics settings I use, and the usual fix is locking the FPS to 60, but there doesn't seem to be an option.
Edit: I was able to cap the FPS through Nvidia, so it's all good!
Just curious, what's the Teddy Bear in the crib with the jumpscare supposed to do, I try to interact with it but nothing happens. Not looking for spoilers, just wanting to know if it's a bug or if I'm missing something
when it's done :P it will start getting worked on after the switch to the alpha 2 system codework. the protagonist and all the cultists now have accidents over time with pearl and rea having the ability to get changed just without the cutscene and anim work yet
What I mean is that I want to ask when the next Alpha update will be. The two models that cannot be played are not the actual game updates. Note that it is “actual”. I don’t know what my translation software translated it into. Because My native language is not English
This weekend. I am not sure what you mean by the two models. There is one playable character (rea) and 8 cultists with another on the way thats about 70% done. All character models got updated for the halloween and bella and rea are getting additional tweaks when I get hone from work.
The 4 test stages and show room are getting minor tweaks as well and I am adding a few props and music tracks that missed the halloween update
bunch of new prop items with the liquid shader being used on the sippy cup, new cottage to the right, the new mirror shader, first pass of the magazines that will eventually become collectables and the model updates with them now head tracking the player and having tail breast and ear physics.
And I really want to urge you to update your game. It’s been 282 days since I got the game, but I still haven’t seen the actual game content update. Although I really want to continue waiting in silence, it’s really been too long.
Actually I can help you out on understanding this mate. I respect you and understand the work you put into this. Well done. I admire you for that. Thing is, when I get into the new game for the SH small, it's just the graveyard with nothing I can interact with. Now that awyou say this, I understand I'm looking at something wrong here. So what I'm asking is which download takes me to your work? Would it be the showcase? I can't tell. When I go back to downloads it says "last update 286 days ago" I can't wait to see what you done.
Oh you mean the proper 1.4 with the bugfixes. Yeah, give it a week since I want to update both Bella and Rea with the issues caught. I had to crash this weekend from overworking with my main job and fighting some compilation issues with the halloween.
Can I help you out in anyway? I've been a quiet observer from your twitter and a big fan since the first spoopy halloween on itch. Maybe I can help some how.
Yes. I will be looking for testers for 1.5 and 2.0 now that I will be compiling a build every week or so.
I do have zero tolerance for people that tries to cause any sort of drama and pettiness like talking behind other backs and failing to settle minor disagreements like a actual person since that has been an issue in the past.
You can add me onto discord if interested: hodgepodge028 Feel free to DM me on FA or twitter if you have any issues and I will be happy to assist.
The page won't let me download the latest build without paying again. Is that supposed to be how it works? Cuz I was under the impression that this works like Steam Early Access where you buy the game before it's done and get to play every new build without paying again.
No, you should have forever access. Can you reach out to me either through a fa or twitter note or through discord: hodgepodge0281 just send your email you used to purchase it and I will get you straight.
This is actually a problem with itch.io. After purchasing some games, it will still show that you have not purchased and need to purchase again. However, in fact, there is a small pop-up window at the top of the page telling you to own the game and download it.
My bad on that one. I will have to patch it. There were a few silly things I overlooked to meet the deadline. Thankfully everything so far found is an easy fix.
I will be working on that shortly after the upgrade to the alpha 2 codebase. I did compile halloween 2023 with its 4 maps and its showcase room. Check the downloads for the link since it's bigger then itch.io allows.
They were never compiled and it takes several hours to compile the shader variations1.2 was the tech demo with a very early version of maddie and some stage work. 1.3 was the improved graphical pipeline with meg and the first pass of the new models with improved animation capabilities. 1.4 came shortly after with ms.anthropy (the witch cat that will have projectile based attacks later.)
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loading a save loads the dark screen
for some reason i can only get the 2.1 to show up i do have the game already bought
2.2 is listed under demo. Its completely free.
My main complaint with the current build and previous ones, are how random and annoying Thorns AI is. Sometimes she just rushes you down, others she'll stop when stared at. On top of that, she is INSANELY fast. I get that this is a horror game and she's supposed to chase you, but she's inescapable, and if she doesn't stop when stared at, it's a guaranteed game over. At the very least, make her slightly slower than the sprint and add in a stamina bar.
She has a messing mechanic. If she needs a change, she will charge you aggressively. Just press 'E' when next to her. It's still risky, but it puts her back into the weeping angel type behavior where she stops when you are looking at her.
Yup. I am thinking about slightly rewarding the player to offset if thorn gets one hit in during that
Yeah, she is getting nerfed across the board. I am slowing her down, making her hit less hard and making her completely ease off once you stare her down for a few seconds rather then forcing the player to ease off themselves while looking at her. I am keeping her difficult but she is considered over kill right now.
I personally don't find her too too hard. I agree she could use a bit of a nerf, but the only thing that really bothered me with her so far is that sometimes she will have another accident right after you change her.
I had her in her aggressive mode chasing me, so I let her get close enough to change her. Then I was only able to back a few paces away before she had an accident again and resumed chasing me. So, perhaps a delay should be added that prevents her from messing right after she is changed? Either way, it's still an interesting experience.
Yeah I plan on keeping her difficult but she does have some rough corners that need to be shaved. The accident system currently allows cultists to mess and wet a 2nd time zthe tldr means there are 2 counters at around 3 to 4 minutes that are always counting down and can over lap like you experienced.
The aggro when she needs a change is a recent addition when I found her too easy and predictable and that issue is an easy enough fix for the next patch.
It doesn't seem that I can get the 2.2 version. Itch.io is only letting me have Alpha 2.1 and the old build files.
I have found a work around that itch.io bug. Can you contact me via dm and i will provide you the workaround?
Pardon my ignorance, but in what way should I DM you?
Fa or twitter
A bit of an update, I managed to find the keys, but there seems to be an issue. The master key is single use, but there are multiple doors that use it.
Yup, That issue is known and is not intentional. the doors that use that key need a flag to not consume the key on use. as is with some items being mislabeled on the text prompt when you pick them up. quite a few have the diaper pack prompt and I haven't prioritize it yet as I want to make sure the final area plays well and isn't needlessly cruel since Thorn is already really pushing it.
The other known issue is there are a few objects that need flags corrected for the save system to work as built. That will likely be ironed out a bit after Halloween since it has always been extremely fickle.
Is there supposed to be any kind of "prize" at the end? I managed to get down to the restroom but found not much else (other than a certain familiar tall girl)
I am actually compiling the spoopfest '24 build right now that does have a ending
My one complaint is that I feel like the save system needs to work(it keeps giving me a black screen when trying to load) , or else the game is extremely difficult.
the save system doesn't currently function, there's still some issues preventing that. As for the difficulty, I imagine being able to load from a saved position will help.
a LOT of the items are mislabeled, and I have not quite found any keys yet, but the new ai is awesome!
I am so glad to hear that. The AI was a huge priority this update.
Just a heads up. One of the doors that opens with the common key has two doors in the frame. One will unlock, the other doesn't unlock. I somehow manages to get two common key and one of the doors will not open with it.
It's the room closest to nursery room with the flashlight. I do understand it is still an alpha, but I figured I would let you know regardless. Great work as of yet.
To be clear, I was referring to the 2.2 RC1 version.
yup. That room had a duplicate door that was causing issues with that room. It has since been fixed.
heya! i love the game so far! i am a bit lost though, i cannot find pearls room key or how to progress in any way
Hey I think I accidently bought the same version of the game twice
Please get with itch.io staff to clear out the duplicate purchase. You have my proof of approval right here.
There we go, 700!
Got a pretty crappy PC, can't even get the game to load- any tips on how to fix that? The loading bar gets about 1/6th of the way through and then it freezes, so IDK if it's really a graphics thing...
The game is quite demanding and requires a up to date PC.
You did a grate progression from the 2.0.3 to 2.1, developing a game is quite demanding for the time you spend on it, so, congratulation for your progress but, I have my questions.
For the accident system, you will add sounds when one of the cultists wet herself?. And, you will add sounds when you/they change their/your diaper? like diaper crinkle and diaper tapes sounds.
Idk if is already added in previous versions but, our main character will have integrated the accident system and we must change ourself or ask a cultist or passive npc to help us?
Yes, player accidents and changing is getting expanding on and coming back in the Halloween update.
I Downloaded the 2.1. Am I missing something? I get spawned on the elevator floor with passive enemies. Am I supposed to do something to access more of the game? I've already looked through the doors.
I am actually in the same boat so same question here
The 2.1 is currently 6 stages with passive NPCs. The focus was on updating every single character model, expanding the accident system and lipsyncing then optimizing the game so it takes less space and runs better (minus ginny's area which is currently getting improved)
Hostile enemies and larger areas are coming back in 2.2.
Gotcha thank you
I'm loving the games progress so far. Though in this update when inside Ginny's Complex, it's destroying my framerate for some reason. (18-34fps) Everywhere else it's golden. (100fps+) On previous versions Alpha 2.0.2 and Alpha 2.0.3. I never encountered this problem.
I disabled shadows in that area and it helped and went up to 36-54fps. Though it was still very erratic between those two numbers, so not smooth.
Now I have two kinda beefy rigs and get almost max settings on both. In game it ranges from 108-120fps and 128-144fps in 4K depending on which PC. It's just Ginny's Complex where it drops below 34fps.
I'd also like to ask if there be character/s more focused on watersports vs scat? Like if some prefer one over the other? Just curious.
Sorry for long comment. I just thought I'd point it out for future builds.
That's one of the known issues with the build actually.
The lighting was updated on Ginnys mansion however two of the prefabs received bad settings causing performance issues. I recently corrected That and rebaked the whole scene. it will be less demanding next release.
Ah, well that explains it. Thanks for the update.
May I ask if we'll be seeing Amber anytime soon?
Probably at the end of the year. I still need to update her textures and get her rig up to the standard I set for the characters.
Awesome, excited to see her character come to light.
trying to download Alpha 2.0.3 and it’s not working. I don’t know why I’m downloading it. I have zip seven and I open it in there and I tried to press the game and it says system error code extraction can proceed because unity player dill was not found and I don’t know what
You can't run the game within 7zip. Please extract the game folder to your primary hard drive and run the .exe from there.
Trying to download the strip club demo and the alpha 1 trailer just redirects me to download the 2.1 Alpha, is there something I'm missing?
the webpage can be hit or miss. Download the itch.io app or try https://hodgepodgedl.itch.io/soggy-horror-demo
Tried that, and while the demo for Alpha 2 downloaded, for some reason the strip club demo didn't.
So, I accidentally bought the game twice. Anything you can do?
I just reimburse you when you DM me with the email account you used on paypal.
How do i dm you here?
just dm me on Twitter/fa or email me hodgepodgeabdl@gmail.com
Will you eventually get real people to voice the characters in the game?
yes, but my focus is going to be on map and gameplay work for the next month or so.
Cool! Do we have a 3rd person view yet? I really wanna see the character :)
some previous builds had it, so heres hoping
It's coming back either this Halloween build or the one that follows.
Hopefully no more third arms, this time, huh? XD
is that pee on the 4th floor? lots of pretty particle systems but the stream looks, hehehe
Great work so far. I ran into a few issues however..
Floor 1, I was chased, but nothing happens when caught up to aside for being pulled from whatever hiding position I entered if they were close enough.
Floor 4, upon returning to the elevator, it was gone and I fell through the world.
Floor 5, I fell through the world near the very back of the room
Really good update here! It fixed a crashing upon startup issue i had with the previous couple versions and I really like the new cultist Charlene. amazing work as always.
I cant get the game to work or start.
Do we have an update on the 2.1
I have been working on it whenever I can. I appreciate everyone's patience on it and I plan to compile one of the tests we do during our work streams soon.
awesome stay the course
Sounds fun.
Been playing the Xmas demo, just some quick notes:
Same issues i've had, do atleast love the rooms on both left and right very well done, do hope a hotfix comes out. .w.
Yay thanks for the christmas alpha. It looks awesome! Cant wait for the game :)
Is there a way to limit the FPS in the game? Running it makes my computer run hot no matter what graphics settings I use, and the usual fix is locking the FPS to 60, but there doesn't seem to be an option.
Edit: I was able to cap the FPS through Nvidia, so it's all good!
Just curious, what's the Teddy Bear in the crib with the jumpscare supposed to do, I try to interact with it but nothing happens. Not looking for spoilers, just wanting to know if it's a bug or if I'm missing something
It's there just for the vibes currently.
Got ya, anything for "babification" yet?
when it's done :P it will start getting worked on after the switch to the alpha 2 system codework. the protagonist and all the cultists now have accidents over time with pearl and rea having the ability to get changed just without the cutscene and anim work yet
Oh and the buttons where the bosses are that say "spawn friends" what do they do?
There's an odd temple that appears after I push one (as far as I know) but there isn't anything inside
And a locker shows up near the beginning but if I open it the game freezes
those two are placeholdera. The temple is there atm as a godray light test.
What I mean is that I want to ask when the next Alpha update will be. The two models that cannot be played are not the actual game updates. Note that it is “actual”. I don’t know what my translation software translated it into. Because My native language is not English
This weekend. I am not sure what you mean by the two models. There is one playable character (rea) and 8 cultists with another on the way thats about 70% done. All character models got updated for the halloween and bella and rea are getting additional tweaks when I get hone from work.
The 4 test stages and show room are getting minor tweaks as well and I am adding a few props and music tracks that missed the halloween update
So, what's new in both of the showcases?
bunch of new prop items with the liquid shader being used on the sippy cup, new cottage to the right, the new mirror shader, first pass of the magazines that will eventually become collectables and the model updates with them now head tracking the player and having tail breast and ear physics.
I'm assuming that you've already caught this but in the new build, you can't return to the main menu from the pause menu.
Also, I know that the lighter is supposed to be a last resort but currently I feel that it gives out too little light to be useful.
yup caught. The lighter actually is getting buffed in alpha 2 and I'm dropping the dual use with the lantern since it's silly.
And I really want to urge you to update your game. It’s been 282 days since I got the game, but I still haven’t seen the actual game content update. Although I really want to continue waiting in silence, it’s really been too long.
I don't follow, the game just got a bunch of new music tracks, a new graphical pipeline 3 new cultists, a guest character and 4 new stages.
Actually I can help you out on understanding this mate. I respect you and understand the work you put into this. Well done. I admire you for that. Thing is, when I get into the new game for the SH small, it's just the graveyard with nothing I can interact with. Now that awyou say this, I understand I'm looking at something wrong here. So what I'm asking is which download takes me to your work? Would it be the showcase? I can't tell. When I go back to downloads it says "last update 286 days ago" I can't wait to see what you done.
Oh you mean the proper 1.4 with the bugfixes. Yeah, give it a week since I want to update both Bella and Rea with the issues caught. I had to crash this weekend from overworking with my main job and fighting some compilation issues with the halloween.
Can I help you out in anyway? I've been a quiet observer from your twitter and a big fan since the first spoopy halloween on itch. Maybe I can help some how.
Yes. I will be looking for testers for 1.5 and 2.0 now that I will be compiling a build every week or so.
I do have zero tolerance for people that tries to cause any sort of drama and pettiness like talking behind other backs and failing to settle minor disagreements like a actual person since that has been an issue in the past.
You can add me onto discord if interested: hodgepodge028 Feel free to DM me on FA or twitter if you have any issues and I will be happy to assist.
It seems to be a bug, the game shows buy for 10 USD, but if you scroll to the top it shows how long ago you purchased it with a download link.
Nah, that's just the way itch.io is about some purchases.
The page won't let me download the latest build without paying again. Is that supposed to be how it works? Cuz I was under the impression that this works like Steam Early Access where you buy the game before it's done and get to play every new build without paying again.
No, you should have forever access. Can you reach out to me either through a fa or twitter note or through discord: hodgepodge0281 just send your email you used to purchase it and I will get you straight.
This is actually a problem with itch.io. After purchasing some games, it will still show that you have not purchased and need to purchase again. However, in fact, there is a small pop-up window at the top of the page telling you to own the game and download it.
I have/had the same issue, but there is a button on top of the page:
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not sure if computer issue or if its normal to take this long, or an error but its taking a long time to load or i'm stuck on the scene loading screen
what level are you attempting to load?
i tried loading the showcase room and Halloween cemetery and showcase and nothing but endless loading it seems though i was able to load the cellar
odd I will look into it tonight
I too have this problem loading the cemetery and the showcase from the file from the text file link. All the others load fine.
The Halloween Small file loads fine if that helps anything.
Same issue here, Can't load in to the cemetery or the showcase.
My bad on that one. I will have to patch it. There were a few silly things I overlooked to meet the deadline. Thankfully everything so far found is an easy fix.
babifcation is there a way to start it or is it not yet implemented yet
I will be working on that shortly after the upgrade to the alpha 2 codebase. I did compile halloween 2023 with its 4 maps and its showcase room. Check the downloads for the link since it's bigger then itch.io allows.
So that's the showcase thing or another file entirely
different file. its the txt one since itch limits your upload size
got them and i have infinite loading screens
getting patched!
I'm assuming that this is a symptom of these being single level compiles but I'd just like to note that if you die, you can't respawn.
it is since there is no load or main menu screen to transfer to
btw, standing on ai heads in new update cheeses them!
(no detection)
as intended! (with how detection is handled in the current alpha 1. branch)
I do have a question tho... in "The Mansion" how do you get past that segment with the lighter?
You light the two candles with it before the room traps you.
hodge, Ill pay $$$ to play ur unreleased versions. and also give you feedback :) (hyped for 1.2!!) ((name ur price!))
They were never compiled and it takes several hours to compile the shader variations1.2 was the tech demo with a very early version of maddie and some stage work. 1.3 was the improved graphical pipeline with meg and the first pass of the new models with improved animation capabilities. 1.4 came shortly after with ms.anthropy (the witch cat that will have projectile based attacks later.)
thx for getting back so quick, means a lot to me (and I'm sure it means a lot for the rest of the community aswell!)
what takes so long for compiling? (Genuine question not trying to come off rudee)
shader variations by far. Everytime I update URP it means 3-4 hours of compiling them.